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I am soliciting opinions on the following sailboats and European motor
sailors. This is my working list and it tends to be a bit
brutal. You'll note immediately my prejudice against fin keel vessels.
Everyone has a quirk... that's mine.
Specifically, my dreamboat is less than 30 feet (thinking 27'
or thereabouts)...
She'll have a displacement of between 7 and 8,000 pounds -- no
lightweight powder-puffs and no heavyweight's either
Absolutely won't have leaky teak decks (presumed sailing range
is tropical)
Plastic (not wooden)
Should have a built in shower.
She'll be for single-handing, coastal cruising liveaboard, and
won't race... living on my ear doesn't appeal, nor do tri's or
cat's.
Timeframe : I'll buy within the next twelve months....
See my
book offerings and help increase the cruising kitty!
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So, what do you think about the following boats?
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Links are provided (new
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Red boats/second column are
ones I
have found unsuitable for *my* purposes.
I have left them here as a courtesy for others who have
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Also, I welcome any
photographs and schematics you may have for boats in that
meet the criteria (less than 30', liveaboard capable)
Pictures ideally will be in *.jpg format.
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me your Opinions!
and, a link back to the
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Alberg 29 (not thrilled -- a bit long)
A well-built, strong, offshore-capable boat.
Local prices around C$ 20,000 a bit tight for headroom (There is
also a 22' Alberg that could carry one across any ocean if you
don't mind sleeping half-in, half-out of the miniscule
cabin-approx C$8,000) [writer is 6'2"]
wheel steering...it's a well built boat and a nice compromise
for those who can't afford to go completely over-the-top
price-wise. Steps going in and out of the cabin to the cockpit
are steep
ALBIN 25 MOTORSAILER (1972) (16k sold)
Albin Vega 27 (fin)
pronounced "veega," by the way in Sweden)
Many around my area for C$14,000-18,000 lacks
headroom problem with mast compression on cabin-top (requires
reinforcement) I seem to recall that there is a question of the
chain plate structural quality. typical Swedish go-anywhere boat
[writer is 6'2"]
"it's a small, light, inexpensive, and very seaworthy
boat; deck compression issues are more related to sailors
over-tensioning their standing rigging rather than a design or
construction weakness"
www.aldenyachts.com
(too large)
Allegra 24 (poor man's Dana?)
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/Allegra24/
Allied Seawind 30
(ketch, full keel, 4.2 draft) (nice, but want smaller)
Aloha 26 by Bob Perry
www.valiantyachts.com
(fin keel)
Amazon 29 (steel)
1984 (tankage/liveability/not sleek)
www.svpelican.org/jennyp/logs/may2001a.htm
Annie 28 (built by Morris)
ATLANTA VIKING
26 (Viking 26 is boxy m/v speedboat
sort of double (aft-cabin)
ATLANTA VIKING
28 motorsailer
ATLANTA VIKING 29 motorsailer
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BALLARINA
II MOTOR SAILER 21’ (too small)
Bayfield 25 (too
lightweight, no shower nor space for one)
Bianca 27 (from UK)
Blanks Boatyard
Wooden Sloop 27 (wood, from UK)
Bristol 24 (full
keel?) -- too small for shower
Bristol ALL except
the 27 have fin keels
Bristol 27 - Alberg design. Full keel
w/attached rudder. Outboard in well or inboard - inboard
preferred - Sleeps 4. ** (27.7 has
fin keel) Dinette model, NOT
weekender.
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/Bristol27/
Bristol Channel Cutter 28 - too long
bowsprit
BUCKLER / Nelson 42’ / Buckler 24
bilge keeled ketch motorsailer
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Cal 20 (recommended by Vigor - fin?)
- too small
Cal 25 - Bill
Lapworth (fin) has been sailed everywhere
and at C$5,000-7,000, I would go for the extra length & space
There are articles floating around that describe structural
changes to be made for safer offshore use Like my 30' Cal, the
hull thickness is an attractive featur
California (brand name, apparently)
Caliber 28
CALYPSO
motorsailer
Camper & Nicholson (Nicholson 31 is full
keel) (C&N 30 -- smaller available?)
Cape Dory 22 (full
keel but too small/ no head-shower)
Cape Dory 25 (forward
head/no shower/no standing headroom)
Cape Dory 26 (too
light)
Cape Dory 270 (keelboard)
Cape Dory 27, 28 -
Alberg. Full keel/attached rudder. Inboard diesel. Sleeps 4. *
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/CapeDory/
Capital Newport 27 -
fin keel
Caravela Yachts 27 -
fin
Caravelle 22 (may be
too small/coastal)
motorsailer
CARIBEAN
motorsailer (spelling correct/at least that's they way it was on
the list I found)
Cascade 27 / 29 fin
keel
Catalina 25, 27 (fin)
Catalina 27 C$10,000-15,000 locally, every broker
seems to have at least 2 of these boats (yes, the same 2, year
after year, I think they just pass them around) thin hull,
rudder-post separation problems, constant "work-in-progress"
CATFISHER 28’ - catamaran
Cheoy Lee Newell
Cadet (later became Offshore 27) (Taiwan) (wood cabin?/teak
decks?)
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/CheoyLee27/
C CREST 26
motorsailer
CLAYMORE 30 motorsailer
Clipper 26 (flush
deck)
Coastal Recreation La Paz 25 (no
keel/appears unsafe) motorsailer
Colin Archer (wood?)
Columbia 24, 26, 29
(outboards) (26 - too light) Check out the
Columbia 8.7, and 9.6 Both designed by Alan Payne of Australia
who also designed an Americus Cup Boat. They are beamy, very
comfortable at sea and very stable. A friend of mine sailed his
8.7 to Europe, motored the canals and returned. His is very well
outfitted with a Navik windvane and is for sale. He
is in his late 70s and the boat is in New York I believe. It is
extremely reasonable. I think the price is around $13,000. That
includes multiple sails, inner forestay with storm jib, charts,
dinghy, small out board for the dinghy, anchors and Volvo
diesel. All you would have to do is load on the provisions and
go where you wish in a boat that was meticulously outfitted by a
very knowledgeable sailor. Let me know if you are interested and
I will put you in contact with John. Posted November 2005.
COLVIC MSl
motorsailer
Colvic
Countess 28 (low, fin keel – not a motorsailer)
Colvic 23 Motor
Sailer (too high, poor handling) (27 foot also - not sleek)
Colvic Sailor 26 fin
sloop (not a motor sailer)
COLVIC WATSON 19’6” motorsailer
Colvic Watson 30'
overall is a real beauty (great lines)
COLVIC WATSON 23’6”
The Colvics are fairly rugged but almost all are
home finished - Colvic supply mouldings, u fit it out. So some
are amazingly well appointed and some, er, aren't. Not sparkling
performers under sail.
motorsailer
Colvic Watson 26 The Colvics are
fairly rugged but almost all are home finished - Colvic supply
mouldings, u fit it out. So some are amazingly well appointed
and some, er, aren't. Not sparkling performers under sail.
motorsailer
COLVIC WATSON 28’6” maybe – wheelhouse
/ think about it The Colvics are
fairly rugged but almost all are home finished - Colvic supply
mouldings, u fit it out. So some are amazingly well appointed
and some, er, aren't. Not sparkling performers under sail.
motorsailer
Commando 28 (27' from
UK) high cabin/motorsailer "look", wood
Com-Pac 25 - has
centerboard
Contessa 26 (too low,
too lightweight, built for pigmies) aka JJ Taylor 26
Contessa 28 (from
UK?) fin keel
Corribee - 21' Bilge
Keel Sloop (UK?) too small, too low
COX MARINER 22 – bilge keel motorsailer
COX 22 – maybe (need internal diagram,
specs) bilge keel (both Mater Mariner & Swim Ranger; huge window, too small, outboard motor
COX 27 - not sleek, motorsailer
CS 27 - impractical
galley
Cutlass 27 - odd
windows, UK
Cutler sailboats
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Deerfoot Yachts (aluminum - probably too
large)
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Diamond Class 27 -
wood, UK
Dockrell 27 (full
keel; windows too large)
Dufour 27 -
interesting
cabin design
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Eastsail Yachts
AllWeather 25 (offshore or pilothouse) (both full keel)
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/Eastsail25/
Endurance
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Ericson 26 (fin)
ESPACE 1000 34’
Jeanneau
(ugly too)
motorsailer
Europa TS240 (ugly)
EVASION 25 Bènèteau – bendy-toe. Too
light motorsailer
EVASION 29 motorsailer
Excalibur 26, 27 (too
light)
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Fairey
Fisherman 28’ wood. Motor sailer/ long keel
Fairy Fisherman. Not wood in a wooden boat sense.
These were built using Fairy Marine's 'hot moulding' process in
which the hull was planked up in double diagonal hardwood over a
former. A hot curing glue was used between the plank layers and
the whole hull was baked in an autoclave to set the glue. The
effect was an early version of epoxy timber. They didn't rot
much and if epoxied now would be more durable than grp imho.
Double ended and beamy, lotsa room, I believe a long shallow
keel but don't know. More mostor than sail, has rather a
converted lifeboat look to it.
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/FairyFisherman27
Falmouth Cutter 22 (Vigor recommends)
FISHER 25 Pilothouse - ketch and sloop
models (Potter model is ugly)
Fisher 25. Very solid, very
expensive, hold their value well. Real motor sailor @ least
50/50 but probably more motor than sail in practice - too small
to drag that big a prop along convincingly under sail.
FISHER
NORTHEASTER motorsailer
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/Fisher25/
FLIPPER
FUTURAl motorsailer
Folkboat 25 (Vigor recommendation)
Formosa, Taiwan
FRANCES 24l
motorsailer
Frances 26 full keel
(make sure it has a cabin -- some didn't) aka Morris 26 (Morris
designed)
FRANCES
VICTORIA 26 motorsailer
FRANCES
VICTORIA 28 motorsailer
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/Frances26/
FREEWARD 25
motorsailer
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Falmouth Cutter 30 -
long bowsprit, paying a lot of dockage/haul-out fees for a
bowsprit. Sails okay.
FAMILY FOUR (Shetland Family Four)
speedboat
Fantasie
www.fantasi-yachts.se
(too large)
FINNCLIPPER 29
motorsailer
FINNSAILER 29 – consider -- motorsailer
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/Finnsailer29/
FISHER 30 motorsailer
FJORD MS28 ugly motorsailer -
6 Berth Motor Sailer 1983 ugly
Flicka 20
(impractical/small)
Folkboat26 more Swedish quality sells locally for
C$8,000-10,000 If I were 4.5" tall, this would be the one for me
Seriously, the cabin height/space is my only complaint
FREEWARD 30 motorsailer
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‘G’ CLASS
motorsailer
GIB’SEA SERENA
100 motorsailer
GIB’SEA SERENA
120 motorsailer
Grampians (Canadian?)
GREAT DANE 28
motorsailer
Gypsy II – looks small (investigate)
motorsailer
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/GypsyII/
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Garden Classic 27 - wood
Gibsea 242 ugly fin REALLY UGLY
motorsailer centerboard too
Gloucester 22 (fin)
Gulf 29 (Canadian
boat?) (fin keel with spade rudder)
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HALBERG-RASSY
94 motorsailer
HALMATIC 8.8 motorsailer
Hans Christian (33 smallest?)
HM 6
motorsailer
H/HORIZON 32 motorsailer
Hurley 27 from UK
(full keel) (borderline light @ 5800 lbs)
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/Hurley27/
HURLEY 9.5 -
hurley line i sail an old hurley and it is great hurleys
are well built and durable some are a bit ugly but that is only
my thought i did see something on your page that i do not
agree that is about bilge keels and kedging one thing to
remember is that if you are not on very hard all you need to do
is let out the main sheet and the boat stands up and the draft
is reduced and you just sail away you must stop thinking in
single keel thoughts when sailing a bilge keel boat
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H Boat 27' - from UK
(low freeboard, fin keel, racer -- not for liveaboard)
Halman Horizon 27
(Canadian) (fin keel)
HALMATIC 30 motorsailer
Hartley Tasman 28' huge ugly windows -
motorsailer
heavenly
twins mk 3 catamaran
Helms 27 (fin)
Hilliard Sloop 27'
(wood, low freeboard, UK)
Horizon 27 (fin keel)
Hullmaster 27 (3/4 keel) (fin)
HUNTER PILOT 27 (fin keel/ugly/cheap
looking) motorsailer
Husky 24 Motorsailer
(too high, ugly)
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IP 23
MOTOR SAILER (teak decks/boxy, but still…)
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/IP23/
IP 24
motorsailer
Island Packet 26MkII and 27 (some
centerboard/some full keel)
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/IslandPacket/
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International Folkboat 26 - no standing
headroom
Islander Bahama 24 - raised deck (ugly);
outboard in well
Islander 26, 27 (too light) (outboard)
Islander Bahama 26, 28 (too
light/impractical)
Islander 28, 29 (28 no shower/ 29 windows
too large - day boat)
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JOUET 940
motorsailer
JOUET 1040
motorsailer
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J-Boats (smallest is
32')
JJ Taylor 26 aka
Contessa 26
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KEMROCK
CHANNEL motorsailer
KENT CLASS
motorsailer
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Kelt 27 (ugly / not a
real cabin)
Kingfisher 22 (seems small – outboard) Motorsailer?
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LM 22
motorsailer
LM 24
motorsailer
LM 26
motorsailer
LM 27 Wheelhouse Motor Sailer
LM 290 Denmark sailboat (some with inside
steering)
http://www.janice142.com/BoatInfo/LMDenmark/
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Lapworth 24 (ugly)
Linda 28 by Morris
has ballast bolted on exterior
LM 28 Pilothouse (has
galley in pilothouse -- to high)
LM 30 (for size) (but)
I loved the pilot house. This boat really sails well. They were
built tough and would work very well as a live aboard. I would
sail one anywhere. The pilot house works great in foul and fair
weather. Long stout fin keel. Sea drive. Skeg hung rudder. Two
steering stations, wheel in the pilot house and tiller in the
cockpit.
LM 32 motorsailer
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MACWESTER
KELPIE motorsailer
MACWESTER 26
motorsailer
MACWESTER 27
motorsailer
MACWESTER 28
motorsailer
MACWESTER
MALIN motorsailer
MACWESTER
PELAGIAN motorsailer
MACWESTER
ROWAN motorsailer
MACWESTER
ROWAN CROWN motorsailer
MACWESTER
ROWAN ROSE motorsailer
MACWESTER
ROWAN 8 METRE motorsailer
MACWESTER
S’FORTH motorsailer
MANGO
motorsailer
MARAMU
motorsailer
MARINA 75
motorsailer
MARINER 28
motorsailer
MARITIME 21
motorsailer
MASCOTTE 28
motorsailer
MASCOTTE 910
motorsailer
MERIDIAN 9.5 motorsailer
MIDSHIPMAN motorsailer
MIRROR O’SHORE motorsailer
MOODY
CARBINEER motorsailer
MOODY CAVELIER
motorsailer
MOODY
HALBERDIER motorsailer
Morris 26, 28 (aka Frances -- see above)
Motiva Yachten Denmark
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MacGregor 26 ugly
motorsailor
MACWESTER MACGREGOR 26 MacGregor 26
(ugly/cheap) motorsailer?
MACWESTER 30 motorsailer
Mallard Ecume De Mer
27 (ugly)
Marioholm 26 (too
low)
MG Spring 25 (ugly)
Midget 26 (too
low/too light)
Millers Fifer 25 (ugly) wood
motorsailer
Mirage 27 Sloop (fin
keel)
Montego 25 (fin)
Morgan 27 - ugly
cabin
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Natant 24 - 42 HP Mercedes diesel
inboard engine
motorsailer
NEPTUNE
motorsailer
New Goblin 27.5
NEWBRIDGE
NAVIGATER motorsailer
NEWBRIDGE
PILOT motorsailer
NEWBRIDGE
PIONEER motorsailer
NORDIC (81 B/K Motor Sailer) (size?)
NorSea27 (goes
without saying)
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Newport 27 - fin keel
Nimble Kodiak 27 - big (unsafe) ugly
windows. Pilothouse/motorsailor
Norfolk Gypsy 22'
(small, too low, ugly)
Nor'Sea Pilot house
26' (ugly)
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OFFSHOREMAN motorsailer
Ontario 28
http://www.magma.ca/~mcsail/ont/ont28.htm
Orion 27 (Pacific Seacraft built - probably
$$)
OYSTER
HERITAGE motorsailer
OYSTER
HERITAGE * motorsailer
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O'Day - fin keel
Octavia 25 - full
keel (accommodations?)
www.boatshow.com/Octavia25.html (too light)
Olle Enderlein,
Sweden / Hallberg-Rassy 26 (doesn't have full keel)
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Pearson Triton 28.5 - Alberg. The first
production fiberglass cruising sailboat. c. 1958 thru 1966
(after that, became fin keel). Traditional full keel design. **
PROFILE 40 -
motorsailer
Puffin 28 (sedan cruiser -- is there a
sailboat?)
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Paceship PY23 (22.5)
PY26 (fin)
Pacific Seacraft 25 -
full-lenth keel cut away
at the forefoot. She is shaped like a ship's double ended
lifeboat and has a displacement of only about 5,000 lbs.
Suggested current cost was between $15,000 and $20,000. The PS
25 is a sweet-natured little boat and a good singlehander. 4,750
lbs (too light)
Pearson Ariel 26 -
cockpit too large (holiday boat versus liveaboard)
Pearson ALL except
58-66 28.5 Triton's have fin
Pearson 28 fin
Peregrin 27 (ugly)
Plastivella Italy
Kudu 27 (fin)
Potter 25 model is
ugly - a version of the Fischer boats
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Quickstep 24 - cutaway keel
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Rambler 24
Rhodes Ranger by Seafarer 28' (check engine
access/displacement)
ROGGER USHANT
motorsailer
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Ranger 26 (fin) deck
core requires repair for leaks by Jensen Marine
Ranger 28 mast sits
on keel and causes big problems; engine inaccessible
Rhodes Bounty II
(ancient Pearson) 41'
Rhodes Meridian 24'
(outboard - does have full keel)
Rhodes Meridian 24' - Full keel. Motor well and low freeboard
keep working crew capacity two two or three. Loaded with gear
or people, will take on water. Best as a daysailer /
overnighter for protected waters.
Rhodes Meridian 24.9
& 25.7 (no shower or space for one; head under bunk/below
waterline)
Rustler
http://www.rustleryachts.com (too
large)
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SALTERNS
BUCCANEER motorsailer
SCANYACHT 290 motorsailer
SEADOG
motorsailer
DEEP SEADOG
motorsailer
SEAFARER 21MS
motorsailer
SeaSprite 27-28 (called both -- 27'11")
SEVEN SEAS
motorsailer
Shannon 28
SKIPPER 28
motorsailer
Skorpion, Germany
Snapdragon 27 - twin keels
SOUTHERLY 28
motorsailer
Starley
Sundowner 21' Motor Sailor (need more info)
SUNSPEED 81
motorsailer
SWIN RANGER
motorsailer - forget the Swin, I saw the underside of one
and there would be minimal stability.
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S2 9.2 (both aft and
center cockpit modesl) fin keel
Sabre 28 (fin)
SAGATOUR SAGA 27 (motorsailor/ side
deck too narrow, appears unsafe)
San juan 23 -
centerboard
Saybrook Yacht Yard
Stueck (fin keel, low freeboard)
Seacraft Motor sailer 27' (ugly
windows)
SeaFarer 26 (fin)
Seidelman 25, 29
(badly built, rail in water sailing at 10 knots wind)
SILVERS
MOTOR SAILER 28’ (wood)
Southern Cross 28
(modified full keel, draft 4'8")
Soverel 26/27/28
(26-27 too lightweight) (28 is centerboard)
Starwind 27 - airfoil
keel (not full keel)
STEADFAST 24 Fin keel (Motor sailor
called bilge keel?) – motorsailer is ugly
STEADFAST 30 motorsailer
Sunspeed
25 (small – TOO SMALL – windows; boxy cabin)
Swan (newest designs
not suited for ocean cruising) (too long - 37'+)
Sweden Yachts (too
large)
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TAMAR 24MS motorsailer
Tradewind, UK
TRINTELLA III
motorsailer
TRINTELLA IV
motorsailer
Tripp, USA
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Tahitiana is 31' 9
(full keel)
Tanzer 22 (22.5) 28
(fin) 26 (lightweight)
Tartan 27 -
centerboard - They have shoal draft, and have
about as much room as you will find on a boat that will still
sail half way decently.
Taswell, USA (too
long - 40'+)
Tayana, Taiwan (too
long - 37'+)
THAMES / WESTERLY 26'
pilothouse/motorsailor (built for pigmies/ugly/small)
Trintella (roomy,
well-built from Holland, newest aluminum) (fin, too big - 40'+)
Tusker 26 - ugly cabin/windows (yuck!) motorsailer
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Vancouver 27/28 (27/28 from uk differ from
25, which is a definite "no")
Van-der-Stadt steel
motorsailor 28'
Victoire 28 - Dutch-built, 28-foot (made in
Holland early 70's)
VIKSUND
COLUMBI motorsailer
Vindo 29 (high maintenance mentioned)
VOYAGER 290
motorsailer
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Van-der-Stadt steel motorsailor 28’
long fin keeled
Vancouver 25 - has lifting keel,
construction "problems" (Taiwan) and sliding head?!
Virgo Voyager 23'
(side decks too narrow, bilge keels)
VOYAGER 30 motorsailer
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Westerly 23 Pagaent (dual keel) motorsailer
Westerly 26 Centuar - fin keel
(also bilge keel mentioned – perhaps the 28?).
They are all bilge keel with an unprotected spade
rudder, over 6' headroom and still very popular. Asking price
here in current mags £10-15k. Sailing caravan, well mannered but
defiantly a plodder. Early engine was the VolvoPenta MD2, there
were about 3 different layouts offered during the production
life and over 2000 were built.
WESTERLY
KONSORT DUO 29 motorsailer
http://fr.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ben_azo/my_photos
[Note: Click on the Westerly Album for pictures]
WESTERLY
VULCAN motorsailer
Westsail 28 (K means
owner finished) full keel smaller version of the 32
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WARRIOR 35 motorsailer
Waterbug 26 - wood motorsailer
Watkins 25
(centerboard) 27 (fin) 27 Pilothouse (ugly, high)
Watkins 29 (not
thrilled; a bit long) Not a full keel
Westerly 26 Centuar -
fin keel
THAMES / WESTERLY 26' (small/ugly)
26' pilothouse/motorsailor (built
for pigmies)
Westsail 32
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Yankee 26 (fin)
Yankee 30. They are very well built boats designed by
Sparkman & Stevens in the early 70's. They've been sailed
throughout the world. I have to admit some bias as an owner.
But, I highly recommend them for a couple or single-handed
cruiser.
http://storm.prohosting.com/yankee30
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